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		<title>Adventures in Maiming the Text</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason Hood</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all make mistakes, but biblical scholarship produces some truly freakish passages. Edwin D. Freed, The Stories of Jesus&#8217; Birth: a Critical Introduction, The Biblical Seminar 72 (Sheffield Academic Press, 2001), 20-21, produced one of the worst paragraphs I can remember reading: Except for a few passages in the Gospels, Jesus as a descendant of David [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all make mistakes, but biblical scholarship produces some truly freakish passages. Edwin D. Freed, <em>The Stories of Jesus&#8217; Birth: a Critical Introduction</em>, The Biblical Seminar 72 (Sheffield Academic Press, 2001), 20-21, produced one of the worst paragraphs I can remember reading:</p>
<blockquote><p>Except for a few passages in the Gospels, Jesus as a descendant of David (as in the genealogies) was never an important belief for New Testament writers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Unless one counts passages like the inclusion of Jesus&#8217; davidic identity in Paul&#8217;s definition of the gospel (Rom 1:1-4). Of course, many evangelicals overlook this definition of the gospel as well. Perhaps we should give Freed a pass?</p>
<blockquote><p>The author of Hebrews writes that Christ was the Son of God and eternal high priest. He was &#8220;without fahter, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Freed does not notice that the &#8220;he&#8221; who is the subject of the sentence in question (Heb 7:3) is Melchizedek, not Jesus.</p>
<blockquote><p>But according to the author of Hebrews, Christ was not descended from the priests: &#8220;He does not have their genealogy&#8221; (Heb 7:6). The important thing in Hebrews is that, as with Aaron, Christ was called by God.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hebrews never says anything like, &#8220;The really important thing is that Jesus was called by God.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>We might question whether the author of Hebrews was actually trying to negate the tradition about Jesus preserved in the genealogy, if not the stories of Jesus&#8217; birth altogether.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just eight verses later, Heb 7:14 explicitly notes Jesus&#8217; <em>origin from the royal tribe of Judah</em> and states that it is &#8220;it is obvious,&#8221; or well-known.</p>
<p>Finally, note that Freed is throwing around &#8220;Christ&#8221; in the same paragraph in which he downplays Jesus&#8217; davidic identity. What does that word mean? Is it Jesus&#8217; last name? Or the Davidic Messiah, Israel&#8217;s King? (Same goes for &#8220;God&#8217;s Son,&#8221; a royal reference if ever there was one; 2 Sam 7:14; Psalm 2; Matt 16:16, etc.)</p>
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		<title>The Good of Study</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 01:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason Hood</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A reader posts a question in the comments: What is the point of serious, prolonged study? Auburn Seminary, a mainline institution in New York City, did a lengthy study of seminary graduates from across the spectrum of Jewish and Christian belief. Among other points, they found that regardless of one&#8217;s religious persuasion, the traditional academic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reader posts a question in the comments: What is the point of serious, prolonged study?</p>
<p>Auburn Seminary, a mainline institution in New York City, did <a href="http://174.121.120.105/~aubsem/sites/default/files/How%20are%20We%20Doing.pdf">a lengthy study of seminary graduates</a> from across the spectrum of Jewish and Christian belief. Among other points, they found that regardless of one&#8217;s religious persuasion, the traditional academic disciplines&#8211;Bible and theology&#8211;were ranked one and two, respectively, by every group. Whether mainline protestant, evangelical, Roman Catholic, and Jewish, those two items were rated the &#8220;most important areas of study for professional life and work.&#8221;</p>
<p>(I know that Justin Barnard and Matt Lee Anderson, among others, will not be surprised that Roman Catholics ranked Ethics #3; I find it surprising and interesting that mainline pastors marked preaching significantly higher than others.)</p>
<p>One of the implications of this study, I think, is that serious engagement with sacred text and the theology it produces matters&#8211;and not just in seminary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also add a second point. I think I speak for Gerald and SAET in general when I say that such study can be an act of worship. Not just in leading us <em>to</em> worship (although sometimes it does this). Worship involves actively giving our bodies and minds to God (Rom 12:1-2), not so that they will be unused or empty, but so that they will be full of him and his word. &#8220;Thinking God&#8217;s thoughts after him&#8221; is an act of worship.</p>
<p>This morning I spent two hours teaching/discussing Proverbs, Song of Songs, and Job with some young believers. Among other things, we were able to engage the way in which Wisdom literature points to Jesus, as well as a biblical perspective on sex, sovereignty, and suffering. In a world saturated by sex, suffering, and human and demonic pretense to sovereignty, I can think of few better things to do than to prepare myself and others to discern God&#8217;s message in those areas.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t study in the same way as Gerald, but a regular diet of study&#8211;even after completing my doctoral work&#8211;prepares me to wrestle with those questions and many others.</p>
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		<title>Ecclesial Theology and SBL</title>
		<link>http://www.saet-online.org/ecclesial-theology-and-sbl/06/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elsewhere I&#8217;ve argued that the social locations of the academy and the church represent two distinct (and often diverging) fields of theological discourse.  In as much as most of our theologians and scholars are situated in the academy, orthodox theology has become, in many instances, detached from the church and her concerns. While there remains [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elsewhere I&#8217;ve argued that the social locations of the academy and the church represent two distinct (and often diverging) fields of theological discourse.  In as much as most of our theologians and scholars are situated in the academy, orthodox theology has become, in many instances, detached from the church and her concerns. While there remains some overlap between the academy and the church  (particularly when one includes the seminary as a sub-set of  the academic world), overall, these two social locations represent  diverging theological/scholarly agendas.</p>
<p>The point above regarding diverging social locations is aptly illustrated by a recent exchange between SBL and a disgruntled former member, Ronald S. Hendel. Hendel <a href="http://www.bib-arch.org/bar/article.asp?PubID=BSBA&amp;Volume=36&amp;Issue=4&amp;ArticleID=9">accuses</a> SBL of becoming too cozy with faith perspectives. The response from SBL is revealing:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Although SBL invites vigorous discussion of all relevant topics, proselytizing activity is neither welcome nor permitted in SBL-sponsored events and publications and is inconsistent with the SBL’s core values: accountability, inclusiveness, collaboration, leadership in biblical scholarship, collegiality, productivity, commitment, responsiveness to change, communication, scholarly integrity, efficiency, and tolerance. Consequently, any instances of proselytizing activity should be reported to SBL staff. Further, we are unaware of any RBL reviews that even “hint” that anyone is “going to hell.” If any SBL member can point us to such a review, we will immediately remove the review and disavow its sentiments.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Clearly the rules of engagement governing SBL do not lend themselves to the sort of theological task historically prosecuted by  the church&#8217;s most influential theologians. The church&#8217;s task is, explicitly, a proselytizing one. Indeed, a significant bulk of the church&#8217;s reflection is driven by, and born out of, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2028:19-20&amp;version=NIV">the duty of proselyting</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad believing, orthodox scholars like <a href="http://euangelizomai.blogspot.com/2010/06/danger-alert-religious-people-attend.html">Michael Bird</a> and others are present and moving in the SBL environment. The Christian community needs a voice there;  we have both things to learn and to teach. But given the stated aims of SBL, it should be clear that the agenda of SBL &#8212; reflective of the wider academic context &#8211;  represents an entirely different sort of agenda than what must once again come to constitute the core of orthodox, theological reflection. We are in need of a rebirth of the ecclesial theologian &#8212; the kind  of theologian whose primary vocation is pastoral, and whose  intellectual center and theological agenda is constituted by the church.</p>
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		<title>Pastor-Theologians and Academic Theologians: Toward a Healthy Division of Labor, Part 3</title>
		<link>http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-toward-a-healthy-division-of-labor-part-3/06/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following up from part one and part two&#8230; Yet in drawing a contrast between academic theology and ecclesial theology, an important words needs to be said here about the mutually dependent nature of the church and academy. As my vision for ecclesial theology has unfolded, I’ve become increasingly aware of the need for a robust [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up from <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-a-few-thoughts-in-light-of-jensons-systematic-theology/03/">part one</a> and <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-toward-a-healthy-division-of-labor-part-2/04/">part two</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>Yet in drawing a contrast between academic theology and ecclesial theology, an important words needs to be said here about the mutually dependent nature of the church and academy. As my vision for ecclesial theology has unfolded, I’ve become increasingly aware of the need for a robust partnership between believing academic theologians and pastor-theologians. Doug Sweeney (himself a respected academic historian), helped crystallize this for me at the close of the 2009 Fellowship Symposium of the Society for the Advancement of Ecclesial Theology (SAET). Sweeney suggested:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We will not always need academic, systematic theologians to do all the heavy theological lifting for God’s people. We are not often explicit about this, but systematic theology, insofar as it is distinguished from biblical, historical, philosophical, psychological, and intercultural theology, is the work of generalists, people who synthesize the findings of those in the other scholarly disciplines and neither have nor require a methodology of their own. They put the big picture together and apply it to our lives. They don’t require the resources or the structures of the academy to do this kind of work (though they do need very good libraries). In fact, the people best suited to synthesize our knowledge of God and His ways in the world, applying this knowledge to the empirical realities people face, are pastor-theologians.</p>
<p>We should work toward a day when professors view themselves as handmaids serving pastor-theologians, and pastor-theologians play an important public role in guiding people theologically. Professors should continue to offer specialized instruction in ancient languages and history, exegesis, church history, social science, and philosophy. They will continue to raise up future generations of pastors. But we should work to raise up the kinds of pastors who can synthesize, exposit, and apply the knowledge of God to the lives of all God’s people with authority.”</p></blockquote>
<p>We no longer live in a pre-critical context, and thus the pastor-theologian can no longer go it alone. The modern research university—with all of its blessings and challenges—is here to stay.  Thus academic theologians and pastor-theologians must work in tandem, each bringing a strength to the theological task the other lacks. As a general rule, the academic context will push professors toward specialized research, while the ecclesial context will push pastors toward multi-disciplinary synthesis. Consequently, the pastor-theologian, even though widely read, will likely lack narrow expertise in the sub-fields of the various theological disciplines. He is thus in need of the believing research professor to help him sort through the myriad of secondary literature, and to serve as a guide to the wealth of resources housed within the academic community. And believing professors need pastor-theologians who can partner with them in thinking through the ecclesial relevance of their academic work, providing professors with a more robust understanding of how the various theological/intellectual paradigms of the academy intersect with the situation on the ground.</p>
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		<title>Pastor-Theologians and Academic Theologians: Toward a Healthy Division of Labor, Part 2</title>
		<link>http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-toward-a-healthy-division-of-labor-part-2/04/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a previous post I raised a question about the necessity of pastor-theologians in light of gifted, ecclesially sensitive academic theologians such as Jenson, Guton, Hart, Webster, Vanhoozer, etc.  Is there anything that a pastor-theologian brings to the table that isn&#8217;t already being brought by academic theologians? And if so, what? Nearly all of my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1404" style="float: left; margin: 0 10px 10px 0; cursor: hand;" title="jwillitts.aspx" src="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/pulpit.jpg" alt="" width="156" height="240" />In a <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-a-few-thoughts-in-light-of-jensons-systematic-theology/03/">previous post</a> I raised a question about the necessity of pastor-theologians in light of gifted, ecclesially sensitive academic theologians such as Jenson, Guton, Hart, Webster, Vanhoozer, etc.  Is there anything that a pastor-theologian brings to the table that isn&#8217;t already being brought by academic theologians? And if so, what?</p>
<p>Nearly all of my study up to this point has been in historical soteriology (Augustine, the Cappadocians, Athanasius, Anselm, Calvin, Luther, Edwards, etc.)  and New Testament studies devoted to Paul and justification (Wright, Westerholm, Seifrid, Bird, Moo, Dunn, etc.).  I&#8217;m a new-comer to contemporary systematic theology, so the analysis provided below must be seen as preliminary. What follows is my &#8220;initial sense of things&#8221; after reading portions of Jenson, Webster, and Pannenberg, contrasted with the sort of theological reflection written by Calvin, Luther, Augustine, etc. My comments here are not intended so much as a critique, but mere observations. As I will note in a coming post, academic theologians are able to do things that pastor-theologians cannot.</p>
<p><em>1. Academic Theology lacks a sense of the preacher&#8217;s burden. </em>Academic theologians do not typically have to preach to the laity. This reality is evident in the way their work is constructed. The reader senses that academic theology, even explicitly Christian academic theology, is a couple of steps removed from the situation on the ground. Theology, at it&#8217;s core, must be pressing toward  the pulpit. This does not mean that a theologian&#8217;s work should be hung  low enough for the shortest goat. But it does mean that whatever I come  up with must be &#8212; in its most distilled form &#8212; preachable. Academic theology lacks this at many points. Don&#8217;t misunderstand my point. I&#8217;m not saying  that a theologian&#8217;s project must be preachable without translation &#8212; that  every interested lay person should be able to pick it up and understand  it. Augustin&#8217;e <em>De Trinita</em>, or Edwards&#8217; <em>Freedom of the Will</em>,  for example, are not easily accessible. But there is a sense in both  Augustine and Edwards that they are writing as pastors who have to  weekly (if not daily) draw a connection between their most profound  thoughts and the lives of  average people. Academic theologians do not &#8212; as a matter of vocation &#8212; have to do this, and it gives  them a certain luxury to split atoms that perhaps need not be split.</p>
<p><em>2. There is tendency in academic theology to speak of the believing community in the third person.</em> John Webster, in his little book on holiness, is clearly driving toward an explicitly Christian application. Yet the readers notes a certain distance between Webster and the ecclesial community. His customary way of referring to the believing community is in the third person. He speaks of &#8220;the christian,&#8221; &#8220;the believer,&#8221; and &#8220;the church.&#8221; Yet throughout the book he often quotes Calvin, who in contrast speaks of the believing community in the first person &#8212; &#8220;I&#8221; and &#8220;we&#8221; and &#8220;us.&#8221; It&#8217;s not that Webster never self-identifies with the believing community. But the freedom to do so in academic prose is certainly less than what one finds in Calvin or Luther or Edwards or Augustine. I can&#8217;t help but feel that this rubs the ecclesial edge off of Webster&#8217;s work.</p>
<p><em>3. Academic theology is less self-consciously an expression of personal piety.</em> Worship is a personal thing, and each person expresses it uniquely. Far be it from me to make a statement about the personal piety of academic theologians. Yet I think it a safe observation to note that contemporary scholarship (whether theology or biblical studies), is less self-consciously pietistic than what is found in theological treatises of old. One thinks here of Anselm&#8217;s <em>Proslogion</em>. In the opening paragraphs Anselm writes,</p>
<blockquote><p>Lord, you are my God and my Lord, and never have I seen you. You have created me and re-created me and You have given me all the good things I possess, and still I do not know You. In fine, I was made in order to see You, and I have not yet accomplished what I was made for&#8230;.I set out hungry to look for You; I beseech You, Lord, do not let me depart from you fasting.</p></blockquote>
<p>The entire treatise is, in fact, a prayer. My point here is not that all theological treatise should be written as extended prayers. But there is certainly something to be said for a genre of writing that makes explicit the author&#8217;s personal hunger and love for God.</p>
<p>I like Webster and Jenson, and am finding their work helpful in many respects. And, as mentioned above, I think they are doing some important things that most pastor-theologians &#8211;given our eccleisal vocation &#8211;  find difficult to pull off. More on that in the next post.</p>
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		<title>Pastor-Theologians and Academic Theologians: Toward a Healthy Division of Labor</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve spent the last few weeks reading Robert Jenson&#8217;s Systematic Theology. The trinitarian framework that permeates Jenson&#8217;s project is fascinating. I&#8217;ll need more time (a lot more time!) to sort through all of the implications, but his desire to liberate Christian theology from Greek notions of impassibility and move it toward a (in Jenson&#8217;s mind) [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Robert-Jenson.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1359" style="float: left; margin: 0 10px 10px 0; cursor: hand;" title="Robert Jenson" src="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Robert-Jenson-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>I&#8217;ve spent the last few weeks reading Robert Jenson&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Systematic-Theology-1-Triune-God/dp/0195145984/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1268105328&amp;sr=1-1"><em>Systematic Theology</em></a>. The trinitarian framework that permeates Jenson&#8217;s project is fascinating. I&#8217;ll need more time (a lot more time!) to sort through all of the implications, but his desire to liberate Christian theology from Greek notions of impassibility and move it toward a (in Jenson&#8217;s mind) more biblical notion of God&#8217;s ontology has my mind churning in all manners of soteriological directions. But that&#8217;s for another time.</p>
<p>More relevant to the focus of this blog is the extent to which the work of Jenson &#8212; a systematic theologian&#8211; can be considered &#8220;ecclesial&#8221; theology according to the SAET&#8217;s understanding of <em>ecclesial</em>.  As regular readers of this blog will already know, the SAET is concerned to advance a theology that is more ecclesially sensitive than what is typically found in academic circles. The tendency for academic scholars to suspend  their Christian presuppositions and agendas when doing their  scholarship is decidedly unhelpful for the church. One sees this sort of thing most often in historical and biblical  studies, where the reigning academic methodology does not allow for supernatural presuppositions. Thus historical studies and biblical studies often fail to terminate in theology; little or no effort is made to provide an ecclesially relevant synthesis that advances/protects the message of the church. As <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Outrageous-Idea-Christian-Scholarship/dp/0195122909/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1268102946&amp;sr=1-3">George Marsden properly notes</a>, such stricturing is an  unnecessary capitulation to  secular presuppositions. Much of the SAET&#8217;s critique of academic theology has been  precisely at just this point.</p>
<p>But to what extent does this same critique hold true for Christian academic <em>systematicians</em>, who by the very nature of their academic vocation, consciously press toward theological concerns? This is an interesting question and one that I&#8217;ve been ruminating on for the past month or so. In as much as the SAET&#8217;s vision for the pastor-theologian pushes towards  systematics, it&#8217;s appropriate to ask if there remains a need for the pastor-theologian when we already have gifted academic theologians like Jenson.</p>
<p>Jenson is brilliant &#8212; a remarkable thinker and scholar.  He is a significant voice in the ecumenical movement, and those familiar with his overall work know that his theology pushes beyond mere academic concerns. His work is centered around the life of the church, and is distinctly and consciously Christian; it is not merely descriptive, but ecclesially prescriptive.  So the basic critique that I&#8217;ve leveled against Christian academic scholarship does not obtain with Jenson (or, I suspect, with other trinitarian theologians such as a Guton, David Hart, Pannenberg, Webster, Vanhoozer, etc., none of whom I&#8217;ve read extensively.)</p>
<p>So where does this leave the pastor-theologian? What can a pastor-theologian contribute to orthodox/evangelical theology that is not already being done by academic theologians? In a <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/the-professor-as-researcher-the-pastor-as-theologian/11/">previous post</a> I had argued for a division of labor between academic <em>scholars </em>(representing their respective narrow guilds) and pastor-<em>theologians</em>. But there is, I now see,  a need for a further division of labor between academic theologians and pastor-theologians. After reading Jenson (and some of Pannenberg) with this question specifically in mind, I&#8217;m still convinced the pastor-theologian has something helpful to offer the church&#8217;s theology. In a number of subsequent posts I will lay out a preliminary apologetic for the existence of the pastor-theologian against the backdrop of ecclesially sensitive academic theologians.</p>
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		<title>Two Birds With One &#8220;Pastor-as-Ecclesial-Theologian&#8221; Stone</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing particularly new here. Todd and I had lunch with a number of area pastors who wanted to hear more about the SAET. We both came away feeling like maybe we could have been more precise in explaining the SAET vision and mission. So I’ve been trying to think in fresh ways about how best [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/two-birds.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1286" style="float: left; margin: 0 10px 10px 0; cursor: hand;" title="two birds" src="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/two-birds.jpg" alt="" width="133" height="183" /></a>Nothing particularly new here. Todd and I had lunch with a number of area pastors who wanted to hear more about the SAET. We both came away feeling like maybe we could have been more precise in explaining the SAET vision and mission. So I’ve been trying to think in fresh ways about how best to frame the whole discussion. What problems are we trying to address? How does the SAET’s vision of an ecclesial theologian help address these problems? Writing helps me clarify my thoughts, so here you go. Your input is welcomed.</p>
<p>Here are the two major problems on the SAET radar:</p>
<p>1. The local church in North America is—in the main—theologically anemic.</p>
<p>2. Evangelical theological reflection is—given its location in the academy—often disconnected from ecclesial concerns.</p>
<p>Does anyone really dispute either of these? Evangelical theology is not about to run off the cliff of ecclesial irrelevance. Nor is the evangelical local church on its last theological breath. But I think most of us concerned about both would agree that the dough of evangelical theology could stand a little more ecclesial yeast, and that the local church would benefit from a more theologically substantive pastorate.</p>
<p>Solution? The pastor-as-ecclesial-theologian (i.e., a pastor who writes robust, ecclesially-sensitive theology). The ecclesial-theologian  simultaneously addresses both of the above problems by at once returning a strong theological presence to the pulpit of the local church, and by influencing broader evangelical theological reflection toward ecclesial concerns.</p>
<p>It is self-evident that a theologian in the pulpit will go a long way toward addressing the theological anemia of a local church. Further, it is clear that a theologian’s pastoral vocation will influence his theological writing toward ecclesial concerns, thus returning a distinctly ecclesial voice to evangelical theology. Thus the pastor-as-ecclesial-theologian kills two birds with one stone.</p>
<p>Without a significant body of respected ecclesial theologians, the pastoral office will continue to be seen as a largely non-theological vocation; the local church will remain theologically anemic. And without the ecclesial theologian, theological reflection will continue to remain—at some level—disconnected from ecclesial concerns.</p>
<p>And having made the above argument, one can go on to point out that the pastor-as-ecclesial-theologian model is more than just a good idea; it&#8217;s <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/biblical-evidence-that-pastors-should-serve-as-wider-theologians-part-1/01/">detailed for us in Scripture</a>.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Carl Trueman on &#8220;The Real Scandal of the Evangelical Mind&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl Trueman has a piece over at 9Marks that resonates with much of what the SAET stands for regarding ecclesial theology. Trueman&#8217;s basic point is that there is tendency among (some) evangelical academics to pander to the fancies of the secular establishment, and that such pandering is harmful to the church and her theology. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1128" style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" title="thielicke1" src="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/15318.jpg" alt="15318" width="100" height="95" />Carl Trueman <a href="http://9marks.org/CC/ejournal/2010v7-1/article_trueman.htm">has a piece</a> over at 9Marks that resonates with much of what the SAET stands for regarding ecclesial theology. Trueman&#8217;s basic point is that there is tendency among (some) evangelical academics to pander to the fancies of the secular establishment, and that such pandering is harmful to the church and her theology. I used to push this message more ardently in the early days of the SAET, but have since concluded that stones can be thrown with more precision and care when thrown from the inside. Trueman, an academic himself (WTS), knows of what he speaks, and has earned the right to offer this insider&#8217;s critique.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;There would seem to be a pervasive evangelical inferiority complex. This means that, while we do not wish to exclude anybody, we dread being excluded ourselves. Indeed, for the evangelical academic, in a world so ill-defined, it is always tempting to cut just a few more corners, or keep shtum [is <em>shtum </em>British slang?] on just a couple of rather embarrassing doctrinal commitments, in order to have just that little bit more influence, that slightly bigger platform, in the outside world. This is particularly the temptation of evangelical biblical scholars and systematicians whose wider guilds are so utterly unsympathetic to the kind of supernaturalism and old-fashioned truth claims upon which their church constituencies are largely built. In so doing, we kid ourselves that we are doing the Lord&#8217;s work, that, somehow, because we have articles published in this journal or by that press, we are really making real headway into the unbelieving culture of the theological academy. Not that these things are not good and worthy—I do such things myself—but we must be careful that we do not confuse professional academic achievement with building up the saints or scoring a point for the kingdom.</p>
<p>It remains true (as James Barr pointed out years ago) that evangelical academics are generally respected in the academy only at precisely those points where they are least evangelical. There is a difference between academic or scholarly respectability and intellectual integrity. For a Christian, the latter depends upon the approval of God and is rooted in fidelity to his revealed Word; it does not always mean the same thing as playing by the rules of scholarly guild.</p></blockquote>
<p>He concludes,</p>
<blockquote><p>Years ago, Mark Noll wrote a book, <em>The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind</em>, in which he argued that the scandal was that there was no such thing. When it comes to evangelical scholars and scholarship, I disagree: the scandal is not that there is no mind; it is that these days there is precious little evangel.</p></blockquote>
<p>On a related note, have you read George Marsden&#8217;s, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Soul-American-University-Establishment-Established/dp/0195106504/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1263393748&amp;sr=8-1">The Soul of the American University: From Protestant Establishment to Established Unbelief</a></em>, or his shorter follow-up, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Outrageous-Idea-Christian-Scholarship/dp/0195122909/ref=pd_sim_b_5">The Outrageous Idea of Christian Scholarship</a></em>? I&#8217;m not quite done with either, but I can already confidently recommend them to anyone interested in understanding how the academic scene in North America got to where it is today.</p>
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		<title>Taxonomy of the Pastor-Theologian, Part 4: The Pastor-Theologian as Academic Theologian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I tell people the SAET is a theological society for pastor-theologians, I am initially understood to be speaking of the local theologian model (part 2). When my listeners come to realize that I envision a writing ministry as a vital component of the pastor-theologian’s identity, they quickly assume the popular theologian model (part 3).  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I tell people the SAET is a theological society for pastor-theologians, I am initially understood to be speaking of the <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/the-pastor-theologian-as-local-theologian/11/">local theologian model</a> (part 2). When my listeners come to realize that I envision a writing ministry as a vital component of the pastor-theologian’s identity, they quickly assume the <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/taxonomy-of-the-pastor-theologian-part-3-the-pastor-theologian-as-popular-theologian/11/">popular theologian model</a> (part 3).  When I explain that we are going for something more robust than popular theology, they immediately envision (often with skepticism) this last model—the pastor-theologian as academic theologian. (After all, isn’t academic theology the only alternative to popular theology?)</p>
<p>The pastor-theologian in this model is fully abreast of the academic discussions, and the bulk of his writing consists of articles in academic journals and scholarly monographs related to ongoing academic debates. His intellectual center is the academy, not the local church. And most significantly, like academic theologians in the academy, the pastor-as-academic-theologian subjects his theological project to the demands and presuppositions of methodological agnosticism. He writes not as a pastor or a Christian, but as a disinterested scholar. Pastor-theologians of this variety are few and far between in wider evangelicalism, though perhaps more prevalent in certain denominational contexts. Frequently, the pastor-as-academic-theologian is a freshly minted PhD who has taken a job at a local church while he looks for a teaching position in the academy.</p>
<p>Of the three pastor-theologian models discussed thus far, I am least enthusiastic about the academic theologian model. First, I am not convinced a pastor is called to engage in this sort of writing. It distracts, rather than serves, his ecclesial calling as a shepherd. Secondly, even if there are legitimate reasons for pursuing this model, such writing is decidedly not in keeping with ecclesial theology. It does not seem particularly helpful to use the term pastor-theologian to speak of a theologian whose theological project differs in no substantial way from that of an academic theologian. To be useful, the term pastor-theologian must denote more than simply the vocation of the theologian. It must denote a certain kind of theological project. Thus the pastor-as-academic-theologian model is not sufficient for the SAET project.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the SAET is not concerned to resurrect the pastor-theologian model simply as an end in itself. (We are, after all, not the Society for the Advancement of Pastor-Theologians). Nor are we interested in advocating a pastor-theologian model that fails to terminate in ecclesial theology. Indeed, the final <em>telos </em>of our entire project is ecclesial theology.</p>
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		<title>Taxonomy of the Pastor-Theologian: Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been reading The Power to Comprehend with All the Saints: The Formation and Practice of the Pastor-Theologian. The book is a collection of essays written by the group of pastors who were part of the (now disbanded) Pastor-Theologian Program of the Center For Theological Inquiry. The CTI&#8217;s Pastor-Theologian program was, in many respects, a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/saet-taxonomy.gif"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1008" style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" title="saet-taxonomy" src="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/saet-taxonomy.gif" alt="saet-taxonomy" width="161" height="145" /></a>I&#8217;ve been reading <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Power-Comprehend-All-Saints-Pastor-Theologian/dp/0802864724/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1258945976&amp;sr=1-1">The Power to Comprehend with All the Saints: The Formation and Practice of the Pastor-Theologian</a>.</em> The book is a collection of essays written by the group of pastors who were part of the (now disbanded) Pastor-Theologian Program of the <a href="http://www.ctinquiry.org/default.aspx">Center For Theological Inquiry</a>. The CTI&#8217;s Pastor-Theologian program was, in many respects, a mainline version of the SAET.  The book has a number of robust essays that, as the sub-title suggests, explores the formation and practice of the pastor-theologian. I&#8217;m not finished yet, but given the subject matter of the book one glaring deficit stands out—a deficit not unique to this book. As I&#8217;ve spent the last number of years reflecting on the SAET&#8217;s vision for the pastor-theologian, it has become apparent to me that we throw the term around without really clarifying precisely what we mean. What, after all, <em>is </em>a pastor-theologian? What makes one pastor a pastor-theologian and another pastor just a pastor? Is a pastor-theologian just a really smart pastor?</p>
<p>It is apparent (at least to me) that our ecclesial and theological communities have assumed a definition of the term pastor-theologian without having adequately thought through that definition. That the term is used frequently is obvious. That we understand what we mean by it is not. Bringing definition to the current understanding of the term, therefore, is a necessary first step in identifying the SAET’s vision of the pastor-theologian. In my analysis, the term pastor-theologian is used in a broad sense to denote three basic models: the pastor-theologian as <em>local theologian</em>, the pastor-theologian as <em>popular theologian</em>, and the pastor-theologian as <em>academic theologian</em>. While the SAET affirms—in varying degrees—the legitimacy of each of these models (most especially the first two), the SAET reserves the term pastor-theologian for a fourth model—a model that has all but gone extinct in recent times: the pastor-theologian as <em>ecclesial theologian</em>.</p>
<p>In the next few posts I will be posting excerpts from my &#8217;09 SAET Symposium paper <em>The Pastor-Theologian as Ecclesial Theologian</em>, which seeks to provide a working taxonomy of the pastor-theologian, and argues for theological writing as a vital component of the pastor-theologian&#8217;s identity.</p>
<p>As we will see, the local theologian model is insufficient in as much as it does not include writing theology as a vital component of the pastor-theologian&#8217;s identity (this seems to be the assumed model in play for <em>The Power to Comprehend</em>). The last two models, while they advocate writing theology as a necessary component of the pastor-theologian’s identity, are insufficient in that they advocate the wrong sort of theology.</p>
<p>Stay tuned&#8230;</p>
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