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	<title>SAET &#187; Ecclesial Theology</title>
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		<title>Ecclesial Theology and SBL</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elsewhere I&#8217;ve argued that the social locations of the academy and the church represent two distinct (and often diverging) fields of theological discourse.  In as much as most of our theologians and scholars are situated in the academy, orthodox theology has become, in many instances, detached from the church and&#8230; <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/ecclesial-theology-and-sbl/06/" class="read_more">Read More</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elsewhere I&#8217;ve argued that the social locations of the academy and the church represent two distinct (and often diverging) fields of theological discourse.  In as much as most of our theologians and scholars are situated in the academy, orthodox theology has become, in many instances, detached from the church and her concerns. While there remains some overlap between the academy and the church  (particularly when one includes the seminary as a sub-set of  the academic world), overall, these two social locations represent  diverging theological/scholarly agendas.</p>
<p>The point above regarding diverging social locations is aptly illustrated by a recent exchange between SBL and a disgruntled former member, Ronald S. Hendel. Hendel <a href="http://www.bib-arch.org/bar/article.asp?PubID=BSBA&amp;Volume=36&amp;Issue=4&amp;ArticleID=9">accuses</a> SBL of becoming too cozy with faith perspectives. The response from SBL is revealing:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Although SBL invites vigorous discussion of all relevant topics, proselytizing activity is neither welcome nor permitted in SBL-sponsored events and publications and is inconsistent with the SBL’s core values: accountability, inclusiveness, collaboration, leadership in biblical scholarship, collegiality, productivity, commitment, responsiveness to change, communication, scholarly integrity, efficiency, and tolerance. Consequently, any instances of proselytizing activity should be reported to SBL staff. Further, we are unaware of any RBL reviews that even “hint” that anyone is “going to hell.” If any SBL member can point us to such a review, we will immediately remove the review and disavow its sentiments.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Clearly the rules of engagement governing SBL do not lend themselves to the sort of theological task historically prosecuted by  the church&#8217;s most influential theologians. The church&#8217;s task is, explicitly, a proselytizing one. Indeed, a significant bulk of the church&#8217;s reflection is driven by, and born out of, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2028:19-20&amp;version=NIV">the duty of proselyting</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad believing, orthodox scholars like <a href="http://euangelizomai.blogspot.com/2010/06/danger-alert-religious-people-attend.html">Michael Bird</a> and others are present and moving in the SBL environment. The Christian community needs a voice there;  we have both things to learn and to teach. But given the stated aims of SBL, it should be clear that the agenda of SBL &#8212; reflective of the wider academic context &#8211;  represents an entirely different sort of agenda than what must once again come to constitute the core of orthodox, theological reflection. We are in need of a rebirth of the ecclesial theologian &#8212; the kind  of theologian whose primary vocation is pastoral, and whose  intellectual center and theological agenda is constituted by the church.</p>
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		<title>Pastor-Theologians and Academic Theologians: Toward a Healthy Division of Labor, Part 3</title>
		<link>http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-toward-a-healthy-division-of-labor-part-3/06/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following up from <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-a-few-thoughts-in-light-of-jensons-systematic-theology/03/">part one</a> and <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-toward-a-healthy-division-of-labor-part-2/04/">part two</a>&#8230;
Yet in drawing a contrast between academic theology and ecclesial theology, an important words needs to be said here about the mutually dependent nature of the church and academy. As my vision for ecclesial theology has unfolded, I’ve become increasingly&#8230; <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-toward-a-healthy-division-of-labor-part-3/06/" class="read_more">Read More</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up from <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-a-few-thoughts-in-light-of-jensons-systematic-theology/03/">part one</a> and <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-toward-a-healthy-division-of-labor-part-2/04/">part two</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>Yet in drawing a contrast between academic theology and ecclesial theology, an important words needs to be said here about the mutually dependent nature of the church and academy. As my vision for ecclesial theology has unfolded, I’ve become increasingly aware of the need for a robust partnership between believing academic theologians and pastor-theologians. Doug Sweeney (himself a respected academic historian), helped crystallize this for me at the close of the 2009 Fellowship Symposium of the Society for the Advancement of Ecclesial Theology (SAET). Sweeney suggested:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We will not always need academic, systematic theologians to do all the heavy theological lifting for God’s people. We are not often explicit about this, but systematic theology, insofar as it is distinguished from biblical, historical, philosophical, psychological, and intercultural theology, is the work of generalists, people who synthesize the findings of those in the other scholarly disciplines and neither have nor require a methodology of their own. They put the big picture together and apply it to our lives. They don’t require the resources or the structures of the academy to do this kind of work (though they do need very good libraries). In fact, the people best suited to synthesize our knowledge of God and His ways in the world, applying this knowledge to the empirical realities people face, are pastor-theologians.</p>
<p>We should work toward a day when professors view themselves as handmaids serving pastor-theologians, and pastor-theologians play an important public role in guiding people theologically. Professors should continue to offer specialized instruction in ancient languages and history, exegesis, church history, social science, and philosophy. They will continue to raise up future generations of pastors. But we should work to raise up the kinds of pastors who can synthesize, exposit, and apply the knowledge of God to the lives of all God’s people with authority.”</p></blockquote>
<p>We no longer live in a pre-critical context, and thus the pastor-theologian can no longer go it alone. The modern research university—with all of its blessings and challenges—is here to stay.  Thus academic theologians and pastor-theologians must work in tandem, each bringing a strength to the theological task the other lacks. As a general rule, the academic context will push professors toward specialized research, while the ecclesial context will push pastors toward multi-disciplinary synthesis. Consequently, the pastor-theologian, even though widely read, will likely lack narrow expertise in the sub-fields of the various theological disciplines. He is thus in need of the believing research professor to help him sort through the myriad of secondary literature, and to serve as a guide to the wealth of resources housed within the academic community. And believing professors need pastor-theologians who can partner with them in thinking through the ecclesial relevance of their academic work, providing professors with a more robust understanding of how the various theological/intellectual paradigms of the academy intersect with the situation on the ground.</p>
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		<title>Ecclesial Theology as the Foundation of Popular Theology</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/support.jpg"></a>Popular theology and ecclesial theology share much common ground. Both are concerned with the life of the church. Both are prophetic and call the church to action. But ecclesial theology pushes beyond the introductory nature of popular theology, and serves as its ground. Indeed, the ecclesial theologian engages in&#8230; <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/ecclesial-theology-as-the-foundation-of-popular-theology/06/" class="read_more">Read More</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/support.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1525" style="float: left; margin: 0 10px 10px 0; cursor: hand;" title="support" src="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/support.jpg" alt="" width="239" height="152" /></a>Popular theology and ecclesial theology share much common ground. Both are concerned with the life of the church. Both are prophetic and call the church to action. But ecclesial theology pushes beyond the introductory nature of popular theology, and serves as its ground. Indeed, the ecclesial theologian engages in ecclesial theology as a necessary first-step in laying a solid foundation for his popular theology. In other words, a significant function of ecclesial theology is to make sure that one’s subsequent popular theology is built on a solid footing. Thus ecclesial theology may not always be &#8220;user-friendly&#8221; to the average Christian. But ecclesial theology is always concerned with the <em>sitz im leben</em> of the average Christian.</p>
<p>Too many popular theologians are forced to build their popular theology on the foundation of academic theology. And too many serious theologians don&#8217;t bother with popular theology at all. The ecclesial theologian writes in both directions, always with a view to the Church.</p>
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		<title>Webster on &#8220;Technical Sophistication&#8221; and Ecclesial Theology</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Theological reflection that cannot connect with the existential questions of the congregation is not ecclesial, however robust it might be. But popular theology, in and of itself, cannot be the sum total of ecclesial theology. The theological needs of the church will often compel us to press beyond a lay&#8230; <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/webster-on-technical-sophistication-and-ecclesial-theology/03/" class="read_more">Read More</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theological reflection that cannot connect with the existential questions of the congregation is not ecclesial, however robust it might be. But popular theology, in and of itself, cannot be the sum total of ecclesial theology. The theological needs of the church will often compel us to press beyond a lay level of discourse, yet such pressing need not degenerate into irrelevant abstraction. John Webster helpfully notes,</p>
<blockquote><p>[Theology] attempts a ‘reading’ of the gospel which in its turn assists the Church’s reading. Developing such a ‘reading’ of the gospel entails, of course, the development (or annexation) of conceptual vocabularies and forms of argument whose range and sophistication may seem distant from the more immediate, urgent idioms of Scripture. But though technical sophistication is not without its attendant perils, it is only vicious when allowed to drift free from the proper end of theology, which is the saint’s edification. When that end is kept in view and allowed to govern the work of theology, then dogmatics can be pursued as a modest work of holy reason, transparent to the gospel and doing its service in the Church as the school of Christ (<em>Holiness</em>, 4).</p></blockquote>
<p>Webster is exactly correct here. It is appropriate for a pastor to ask about the “usefulness” of any particular theological synthesis. But the pastor must be able to see beyond the need to gather fodder for his next sermon. Sound theological preaching will often require preliminary “intramural” discussions among theologians, as a way of sorting through the legitimacy of its popular level proclamation. Short-changing this theological spade work, or abdicating it solely to academy, is a mistake.</p>
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		<title>Pastor-Theologians and Academic Theologians: Toward a Healthy Division of Labor</title>
		<link>http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-a-few-thoughts-in-light-of-jensons-systematic-theology/03/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Robert-Jenson.jpg"></a>I&#8217;ve spent the last few weeks reading Robert Jenson&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Systematic-Theology-1-Triune-God/dp/0195145984/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1268105328&#38;sr=1-1">Systematic Theology</a>. The trinitarian framework that permeates Jenson&#8217;s project is fascinating. I&#8217;ll need more time (a lot more time!) to sort through all of the implications, but his desire to liberate Christian theology from Greek notions of impassibility and&#8230; <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/pastor-theologians-and-academic-theologians-a-few-thoughts-in-light-of-jensons-systematic-theology/03/" class="read_more">Read More</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Robert-Jenson.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1359" style="float: left; margin: 0 10px 10px 0; cursor: hand;" title="Robert Jenson" src="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Robert-Jenson-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>I&#8217;ve spent the last few weeks reading Robert Jenson&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Systematic-Theology-1-Triune-God/dp/0195145984/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1268105328&amp;sr=1-1"><em>Systematic Theology</em></a>. The trinitarian framework that permeates Jenson&#8217;s project is fascinating. I&#8217;ll need more time (a lot more time!) to sort through all of the implications, but his desire to liberate Christian theology from Greek notions of impassibility and move it toward a (in Jenson&#8217;s mind) more biblical notion of God&#8217;s ontology has my mind churning in all manners of soteriological directions. But that&#8217;s for another time.</p>
<p>More relevant to the focus of this blog is the extent to which the work of Jenson &#8212; a systematic theologian&#8211; can be considered &#8220;ecclesial&#8221; theology according to the SAET&#8217;s understanding of <em>ecclesial</em>.  As regular readers of this blog will already know, the SAET is concerned to advance a theology that is more ecclesially sensitive than what is typically found in academic circles. The tendency for academic scholars to suspend  their Christian presuppositions and agendas when doing their  scholarship is decidedly unhelpful for the church. One sees this sort of thing most often in historical and biblical  studies, where the reigning academic methodology does not allow for supernatural presuppositions. Thus historical studies and biblical studies often fail to terminate in theology; little or no effort is made to provide an ecclesially relevant synthesis that advances/protects the message of the church. As <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Outrageous-Idea-Christian-Scholarship/dp/0195122909/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1268102946&amp;sr=1-3">George Marsden properly notes</a>, such stricturing is an  unnecessary capitulation to  secular presuppositions. Much of the SAET&#8217;s critique of academic theology has been  precisely at just this point.</p>
<p>But to what extent does this same critique hold true for Christian academic <em>systematicians</em>, who by the very nature of their academic vocation, consciously press toward theological concerns? This is an interesting question and one that I&#8217;ve been ruminating on for the past month or so. In as much as the SAET&#8217;s vision for the pastor-theologian pushes towards  systematics, it&#8217;s appropriate to ask if there remains a need for the pastor-theologian when we already have gifted academic theologians like Jenson.</p>
<p>Jenson is brilliant &#8212; a remarkable thinker and scholar.  He is a significant voice in the ecumenical movement, and those familiar with his overall work know that his theology pushes beyond mere academic concerns. His work is centered around the life of the church, and is distinctly and consciously Christian; it is not merely descriptive, but ecclesially prescriptive.  So the basic critique that I&#8217;ve leveled against Christian academic scholarship does not obtain with Jenson (or, I suspect, with other trinitarian theologians such as a Guton, David Hart, Pannenberg, Webster, Vanhoozer, etc., none of whom I&#8217;ve read extensively.)</p>
<p>So where does this leave the pastor-theologian? What can a pastor-theologian contribute to orthodox/evangelical theology that is not already being done by academic theologians? In a <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/the-professor-as-researcher-the-pastor-as-theologian/11/">previous post</a> I had argued for a division of labor between academic <em>scholars </em>(representing their respective narrow guilds) and pastor-<em>theologians</em>. But there is, I now see,  a need for a further division of labor between academic theologians and pastor-theologians. After reading Jenson (and some of Pannenberg) with this question specifically in mind, I&#8217;m still convinced the pastor-theologian has something helpful to offer the church&#8217;s theology. In a number of subsequent posts I will lay out a preliminary apologetic for the existence of the pastor-theologian against the backdrop of ecclesially sensitive academic theologians.</p>
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		<title>The Pastor-Theologian as Ecclesial Theologian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve reworked my <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/saet-fellowship/fellowship-symposium/">2009 Symposium</a> paper in light of feedback received. The paper brings together the content of my <a href="http://www.reformation21.org/articles/ecclesial-theology-and-academic-theology-why-we-need-more-of-the-former.php">Reformation 21 article</a>, with the content of my <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/a-taxonomy-of-the-pastor-theologian-part-1/11/">taxonomy series</a>, and seeks to articulate an understanding of the pastor-theologian that includes the writing of ecclesial theology as as&#8230; <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/the-pastor-theologian-as-ecclesial-theologian/02/" class="read_more">Read More</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve reworked my <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/saet-fellowship/fellowship-symposium/">2009 Symposium</a> paper in light of feedback received. The paper brings together the content of my <a href="http://www.reformation21.org/articles/ecclesial-theology-and-academic-theology-why-we-need-more-of-the-former.php">Reformation 21 article</a>, with the content of my <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/a-taxonomy-of-the-pastor-theologian-part-1/11/">taxonomy series</a>, and seeks to articulate an understanding of the pastor-theologian that includes the writing of ecclesial theology as as significant factor in the pastor-theologian&#8217;s identity.</p>
<p>The intent is to include this paper in an edited volume alongside the other 2009 Pastor-Theologian Symposium papers, so any feedback before publication is welcome.  Here&#8217;s the introduction followed by a link to a pdf:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Society for the Advancement of Ecclesial Theology (SAET) is, as its name suggests, a society dedicated to the advancement of ecclesial theology.  And in its effort to advance ecclesial theology, the SAET has largely placed its hope in the resurgence of the pastor-theologian. Not because academic theologians are incapable of producing ecclesial theology (quite the contrary), but because the pastoral office uniquely positions one to think both theologically and ecclesially. If history is any guide, the relationship between the pastor-theologian and ecclesial theology is such that the success of each rises and falls with the other. And postmodernity—for all its weaknesses—properly reminds us of the connection between theological formation and social location.   As Daniel Migliore appropriately notes, “the concrete situation of theology helps to shape the questions that are raised and the priorities that are set.”  Who better, then, to articulate theology with a view to the church than those whose primary social location is the local church?</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/The-Pastor-as-Ecclesial-Theologian-Hiestand.pdf">The Pastor as Ecclesial Theologian</a></p>
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		<title>Two Birds With One &#8220;Pastor-as-Ecclesial-Theologian&#8221; Stone</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/two-birds.jpg"></a>Nothing particularly new here. Todd and I had lunch with a number of area pastors who wanted to hear more about the SAET. We both came away feeling like maybe we could have been more precise in explaining the SAET vision and mission. So I’ve been trying to think&#8230; <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/two-birds-with-one-pastor-as-ecclesial-theologian-stone/02/" class="read_more">Read More</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/two-birds.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1286" style="float: left; margin: 0 10px 10px 0; cursor: hand;" title="two birds" src="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/two-birds.jpg" alt="" width="133" height="183" /></a>Nothing particularly new here. Todd and I had lunch with a number of area pastors who wanted to hear more about the SAET. We both came away feeling like maybe we could have been more precise in explaining the SAET vision and mission. So I’ve been trying to think in fresh ways about how best to frame the whole discussion. What problems are we trying to address? How does the SAET’s vision of an ecclesial theologian help address these problems? Writing helps me clarify my thoughts, so here you go. Your input is welcomed.</p>
<p>Here are the two major problems on the SAET radar:</p>
<p>1. The local church in North America is—in the main—theologically anemic.</p>
<p>2. Evangelical theological reflection is—given its location in the academy—often disconnected from ecclesial concerns.</p>
<p>Does anyone really dispute either of these? Evangelical theology is not about to run off the cliff of ecclesial irrelevance. Nor is the evangelical local church on its last theological breath. But I think most of us concerned about both would agree that the dough of evangelical theology could stand a little more ecclesial yeast, and that the local church would benefit from a more theologically substantive pastorate.</p>
<p>Solution? The pastor-as-ecclesial-theologian (i.e., a pastor who writes robust, ecclesially-sensitive theology). The ecclesial-theologian  simultaneously addresses both of the above problems by at once returning a strong theological presence to the pulpit of the local church, and by influencing broader evangelical theological reflection toward ecclesial concerns.</p>
<p>It is self-evident that a theologian in the pulpit will go a long way toward addressing the theological anemia of a local church. Further, it is clear that a theologian’s pastoral vocation will influence his theological writing toward ecclesial concerns, thus returning a distinctly ecclesial voice to evangelical theology. Thus the pastor-as-ecclesial-theologian kills two birds with one stone.</p>
<p>Without a significant body of respected ecclesial theologians, the pastoral office will continue to be seen as a largely non-theological vocation; the local church will remain theologically anemic. And without the ecclesial theologian, theological reflection will continue to remain—at some level—disconnected from ecclesial concerns.</p>
<p>And having made the above argument, one can go on to point out that the pastor-as-ecclesial-theologian model is more than just a good idea; it&#8217;s <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/biblical-evidence-that-pastors-should-serve-as-wider-theologians-part-1/01/">detailed for us in Scripture</a>.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Carl Trueman on &#8220;The Real Scandal of the Evangelical Mind&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Academic Theology]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl Trueman <a href="http://9marks.org/CC/ejournal/2010v7-1/article_trueman.htm">has a piece</a> over at 9Marks that resonates with much of what the SAET stands for regarding ecclesial theology. Trueman&#8217;s basic point is that there is tendency among (some) evangelical academics to pander to the fancies of the secular establishment, and that such pandering is harmful to&#8230; <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/carl-trueman-on-the-real-scandal-of-the-evangelical-mind/01/" class="read_more">Read More</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1128" style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" title="thielicke1" src="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/15318.jpg" alt="15318" width="100" height="95" />Carl Trueman <a href="http://9marks.org/CC/ejournal/2010v7-1/article_trueman.htm">has a piece</a> over at 9Marks that resonates with much of what the SAET stands for regarding ecclesial theology. Trueman&#8217;s basic point is that there is tendency among (some) evangelical academics to pander to the fancies of the secular establishment, and that such pandering is harmful to the church and her theology. I used to push this message more ardently in the early days of the SAET, but have since concluded that stones can be thrown with more precision and care when thrown from the inside. Trueman, an academic himself (WTS), knows of what he speaks, and has earned the right to offer this insider&#8217;s critique.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;There would seem to be a pervasive evangelical inferiority complex. This means that, while we do not wish to exclude anybody, we dread being excluded ourselves. Indeed, for the evangelical academic, in a world so ill-defined, it is always tempting to cut just a few more corners, or keep shtum [is <em>shtum </em>British slang?] on just a couple of rather embarrassing doctrinal commitments, in order to have just that little bit more influence, that slightly bigger platform, in the outside world. This is particularly the temptation of evangelical biblical scholars and systematicians whose wider guilds are so utterly unsympathetic to the kind of supernaturalism and old-fashioned truth claims upon which their church constituencies are largely built. In so doing, we kid ourselves that we are doing the Lord&#8217;s work, that, somehow, because we have articles published in this journal or by that press, we are really making real headway into the unbelieving culture of the theological academy. Not that these things are not good and worthy—I do such things myself—but we must be careful that we do not confuse professional academic achievement with building up the saints or scoring a point for the kingdom.</p>
<p>It remains true (as James Barr pointed out years ago) that evangelical academics are generally respected in the academy only at precisely those points where they are least evangelical. There is a difference between academic or scholarly respectability and intellectual integrity. For a Christian, the latter depends upon the approval of God and is rooted in fidelity to his revealed Word; it does not always mean the same thing as playing by the rules of scholarly guild.</p></blockquote>
<p>He concludes,</p>
<blockquote><p>Years ago, Mark Noll wrote a book, <em>The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind</em>, in which he argued that the scandal was that there was no such thing. When it comes to evangelical scholars and scholarship, I disagree: the scandal is not that there is no mind; it is that these days there is precious little evangel.</p></blockquote>
<p>On a related note, have you read George Marsden&#8217;s, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Soul-American-University-Establishment-Established/dp/0195106504/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1263393748&amp;sr=8-1">The Soul of the American University: From Protestant Establishment to Established Unbelief</a></em>, or his shorter follow-up, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Outrageous-Idea-Christian-Scholarship/dp/0195122909/ref=pd_sim_b_5">The Outrageous Idea of Christian Scholarship</a></em>? I&#8217;m not quite done with either, but I can already confidently recommend them to anyone interested in understanding how the academic scene in North America got to where it is today.</p>
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		<title>Who Needs the Pastor-Theologian?</title>
		<link>http://www.saet-online.org/who-needs-the-pastor-theologian/12/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Ecclesial Theology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Pastor-theologian]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The pastor-theologian programs of organizations such as the <a href="http://www.ctinquiry.org/default.aspx">Center for Theological Inquiry</a>, and the <a href="http://www.pcusa.org/theologyandworship/whatwedo/pastor-theologian.htm">Presbyterian Church USA</a> (both programs are discontinued) follow a nearly identical organizational model as the SAET—we each host symposiums, bring together a diverse body of pastor-theologians and academic theologians, present papers, and pursue publishing,&#8230; <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/who-needs-the-pastor-theologian/12/" class="read_more">Read More</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pastor-theologian programs of organizations such as the <a href="http://www.ctinquiry.org/default.aspx">Center for Theological Inquiry</a>, and the <a href="http://www.pcusa.org/theologyandworship/whatwedo/pastor-theologian.htm">Presbyterian Church USA</a> (both programs are discontinued) follow a nearly identical organizational model as the SAET—we each host symposiums, bring together a diverse body of pastor-theologians and academic theologians, present papers, and pursue publishing, etc. Yet for the CTI and the PCA, such activities are meant to further the pastor’s effectiveness as a local-theologian, not primarily to season the body of orthodox theological reflection.</p>
<p>The SAET however, is primarily concerned to further the pastor’s ability to serve as an ecclesial theologian to the broader theological community. We encourage writing not primarily because the pastor is lacking (or even his local church), but because <em>orthodox theology is lacking.</em> Orthodox theology itself is most fundamentally in need of the pastor-theologian.</p>
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		<title>Thielicke on the (Ecclesial) Theologian</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hiestand</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Book Review]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/thielicke1.jpg"></a>&#8220;Insofar as we are determined to be true theologians, we think within the community of God&#8217;s people, and for that community, and in the name of that community; &#8211; how shall I say? &#8211; we think as a part of the community itself.&#8221;
and again,
&#8220;I should like to&#8230; <a href="http://www.saet-online.org/thielicke-on-the-ecclesial-theologian/12/" class="read_more">Read More</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/thielicke1.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1106" style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" title="thielicke1" src="http://www.saet-online.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/thielicke1.jpg" alt="thielicke1" width="150" height="113" /></a>&#8220;Insofar as we are determined to be true theologians, we think within the community of God&#8217;s people, and for that community, and in the name of that community; &#8211; how shall I say? &#8211; we think as a part of the community itself.&#8221;</p>
<p>and again,</p>
<p>&#8220;I should like to add to all this that the church has the prior right to question us, even if it does not and cannot understand the details of our work; for we are pursing our theological study in its very midst as sure as we are members of that church. Therefore these questions, even if they lack in detail some of the definite theological concerns that we entertain, may be highly relevant and constitute a fire through which we must always march.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>A Little Exercise for Young Theologians</em>, pp. 4-5 and 25-26.</p>
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